Argue with a Christian long enough and you will invariably encounter any number of canned responses that Christians have been trained to parrot back to people in defense of their beliefs. You will also come to discover that you are talking not to an apologist for a belief, but a sophist for a particular brand of spirituality. I have had many such experiences, and always it is a complete waste of time. And it's a complete waste of time because all the Christian sophist is trained to do is reduce every other person's ideas to mere "subjective" systems of "beliefs" that the Christian then feels they have the power to destroy with their own "objective moral truths" about "God," and whatever else they are indoctrinated to "believe." It's like arguing with a computer that condemns you for being a computer while at the same time ignoring or denying it is a computer itself. In other words, it is like arguing with a robot that believes it's God.
Tell a Christian to prove their beliefs, or that their own particular brand of "God" (however each of them defines that term - which is always different, depending on who you ask) exists, and they will tell you to prove that he does not. For them, such a verbal turnaround amounts to game, set, match. And since no one can disprove another person's delusion, and since we cannot lock-up the billions of people who are so self deluded, the Christian then feels justified in proclaiming their religious rules with all of the absolutism of ISIS. The Christian then accuses anyone who tries to change those "rules" of forcing the Christian to accept their "subjective beliefs" instead (which is like the Pharaoh accusing the Hebrews of trying to force their "beliefs" about freedom on the Egyptians).
If you point out, however, that Christians who seek to impose their "rules" on others have yet to even prove their God exists, they will simply tell you that "that is simply your subjective belief," which the atheist is using to impose their own immoral rules on God's children. Christians, in other words, overcome any criticism of their "beliefs" by simply reducing anyone eles's ideas to mere "beliefs" that come from the devil. Of course, Christians have never proven the existence of the devil either, but that is not something they would ever concern them self with. After all, who has time for squabbles about what is objectively true or knowable in the world, when you're "on a mission from God"?
Condemn a Christian for being homophobic, for example, and the Christian will condemn you for using your beliefs to condemn them for their homophobic"beliefs." Christians, in other words, always see themselves as Christ, the defenseless lamb who is always being persecuted and crucified for their beliefs, and never as the lion, who is persecuting and crucifying others for their failure to accept Christianity. But this should not be surprising, for persecutors always see themselves as the persecuted when they are running around persecuting others. Put another way, Christians attack anyone who dares to do to Christians what Christians do to everyone as part of their religion; they can judge you, but you cannot judge them for judging you, for they are simply defending "God." It's like arguing with someone who thinks that they are God.
To hide all of this from anyone who dares to question the self-proclaimed authority of the Catholic Church, as with any system of power, Christians rely on elaborate arguments that all fail to realize that their logic ends at the limits of human understanding, which necessarily ends at understanding the world within time and space. All arguments that then try to extend beyond such an experience are necessarily extending our only experience - of time and space - into a "realm" (for lack of a better word) for which time and space may either not exist at all, or they do not exist in anyway in which we can relate or derive any meaning at all.
Indeed, the theory of "the big bang" necessarily begins the story of the only type of existence we can ever really know anything about, at the moment it was conceived, from whatever other types of "existence" may exist outside of our own - which the Christian thinks of as God, and the atheist admits to having no knowledge of at all, but doubts it to be as irascible as we are.
Yet this fact is always ignored by Christian "apologists" in order to allow the "believer" to "believe" they have found God, out beyond the reaches of human reason or detection. And to understand what they intend to do with this "grand illusion," one need only look to history, or the apocalypse so many "believers" are only too happy to usher in, like a messiah on a donkey. Amen to the prince of peace and pass the ammunition.
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