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Why Set Adam and Eve up to Fail?

 IN response to the question, "Why set Adam and Eve up to fail?," a Christian replied:

Skeptics often complain that God set Adam and Eve up to fail. However, God had to give Adam and Eve a choice. Without free will to choose, Adam and Eve would have been mere puppets. True love always requires choice. God wanted Adam and Eve to choose to love and trust Him. The only way to give this choice would have been to command something that was not allowed.Since God had planted in the garden all the different trees from which we now get fruit,1 the test was not too difficult. Adam and Eve had plenty to eat and a large variety of fruits from which to choose, and could have chosen to believe God. They were only commanded not to eat from one tree out of the many.

RESPONSE:

What must be noticed about this answer is how truly insane you have to be to believe it.

What this answers boils down to, in short, is that God - the most perfect, loving, caring father ever! - basically HAD to put a poison tree in the middle of the perfect Garden he had created for his children to TEST their obedience.

In other words, God was treating his innocent human children like dogs.

That God could have chosen to simply NOT put such a tree in such a garden - which is what ANY half decent, half sane, father would do! -  is out of the question. God MUST know that the humans he created, who must ALL learn to be INDEPENDENT from their parents, and dependence upon their governments (which is why socialism and communism are so hated by Christians, generally), but must ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be DEPENDENT upon God.

But - IT'S NOT EVEN GOD THAT CHRISTIAN ARE SAYING PEOPLE MUST BE DEPENDENT UPON!! ITS HIS EARTH BOUND, MAN MADE, CHURCH!

That Christians can hate big government, and unions, and demand that people must learn to be independent, and all the rest, while at the same time demanding that people must always DEPEND upon God, which really means they must DEPEND upon one Church or another, only proves how effective a "confirmation bias" is at hiding the plank in our own eye while making us so painfully aware of the splinter in everyone else's.



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